PEV
Registered: 28/06/08
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Reply with quote | #1 |
I have fished Wappenham Water for several years during summer.
It WAS a fine mixed fishery. I have had Roach to nearly two pounds, good Bream and when after them many Carp up to middle teens.
Well I fished there last week and was plagued by dozens of small six inch Carp, nothing else (apart from Crayfish) could get a look in!
After about an hour of no choice tiddler snatching I went to speak to another angler whose net was literally bulging with the same stamp of Carp, he must have had fifty pounds at least!
Now MK AA whose clever idea was it to ruin Wappenham Water by dumping thousands of nuisance sized Carp turning it into a 'kiddies practice pond'?
You have REALLY messed up this time I shall not be wasting money on a day ticket there again! Brilliant ruined a damn good fishery at a stroke!!
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IanS
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Registered: 09/07/06
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Reply with quote | #2 |
Sorry about your experience at Wappenham the other day.
I fished it yesterday, had some roach, rudd, and a couple of Carp to 6lb or so.
Not one of the recently stocked fish......
Ian
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tincatinca
Registered: 18/09/06
Posts: 90
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I know exactly how you feel mate they've put these poxy pasties in Caldecotte. I think the message here is ask people what they want to see stocked if its not available save the money until decent quality fish are available. Putting 6 inch fish in anywhere nowadays is just food for cormorants the club should be stocking fish between 2 and 4 lb might cost a bit more but the survival rate is much higher. AND I DONT JUST MEAN MORE CARP EVERYWHERE. A few f the clubs waters would benefit a fresh gene pool of mature fish.
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BobF
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Registered: 01/05/08
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Firstly we had to stock Wappenham with fast growing carp as part of the lease agreement. Secondly if all these tiny carp are going to be eaten then how come they are growing at such a rate in Willen. Thirdly if someone knows of licensed tench etc available at sensible prices then let us know, but remember that we do not own the lakes (other than Bradwell) and have to consider carefully how much to spend on a water which we might loose. |
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vanman
Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 114
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You cant please all of the people all of the time,Why moan the cost of a years fishing in Mk = a 1day ticket on a private fishery.We have sat behind match fisherman for 2 hours & they have blanked match finished & between the 2 of us have pulled out 40/50lb of roach & other smaller fish in an hour .Check the way you are fishing |
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PEV
Registered: 28/06/08
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Reply with quote | #6 |
Vanman
There is nothing wrong with the way I fished Wappenham as stated I was knocking out pound plus Roach. and 2-3Lb Bream every session. Plus when I wanted to, weather and hordes of Canada Geese permitting several double figure Carp off the top.(last time I fished before the Pastie invasion I got a thirteen and half Common on a crust just before the 85 Geese got to it)
I know lads who fish/fished Wappemham and it's THEM who need to look at the way they fish!
If you whack out a feeder as far as you can get and sit behind two or three optronics all day you get very little (except interest from the out of control Crayfish) and now of course you've got the Pasties to mess you up as well.
I used to catch in around bank side cover now it's Pastie City' sorry no longer interested, as I said MKAA have 'fixed sommat that wasn't broke'. I get the point about stocking with Pasties as a condition of lease but the other poster is right they are just feeding the Comerants and Herons. Used to be a long drive to a cracking little fishery, will save my petrol now.
PEV
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tincatinca
Registered: 18/09/06
Posts: 90
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This is getting rediculous i post web sites to point BOB a moderator here in the direction of where MKAA could get stock fish other than pasties and the post gets deleted. George Orwell 1984 big brothers out there.
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Phishy
Registered: 22/12/06
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Wappeneham was always a kiddies practice pond... lol ;o). Only joking.
Not fished it since it went on the MKAA club book. But it used to be cracking little water and i loved fishing for the carp and koi in there witha small float in the margins on light tackle.
I must admit when i heard the club had added the fish i did think.... why? Some days it would be rock hard, but allot of the time you could catch carp, koi, tench, barbel and chub in 2 or 3ft of water right under your feet.
Could the re-stock have been to do with the fish theft? i remeber it was rumoured the place was getting targeted?
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IanS
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Reply with quote | #9 |
Yes I agree this is getting ridiculous.
A few points.
This thread was started by "PEV" who did not have the courage to put his / her name to their profile when they signed up to the forum.
We on the exec are all unpaid, put many hours of our free time into running MKAA and we do our best. With over 2000 members as Vanman says we cannot please everyone all the time. Incidentially I spoke with the bailiff on Saturday and he said it was the best turnout on the bank there this year..
As I see it you have three choices.
1) Continue fishing MKAA waters which at £32 per year is if it is not the best value fishing in the country it has to be very close.
2) Quit fishing MKAA waters.
3) Get involved in running the club.
Ian
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OlneyAngler
Registered: 02/03/08
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i dont know why everyones moaning, people have dont the thing which they think was rite, and im sure other people think that it was the rite thing to do.. even if it isnt your idea of a good idea it still is for other people.
ive only been fishing with MKAA for a year and personally from all the lakes ive fished, ive got nothing against them!
so i dont know why people are having a go at people who sort out mk waters, give them some respect and dont have a go at them, theyve done there best!
thats what i think anyhow 
Jaack
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Nato
Registered: 19/06/08
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Exactly is so cheap on a MKAA book for all the waters you can fish and they show good results, plus if they spent more money on fish stocking they would have to put the price up on a MKAA book 
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tincatinca
Registered: 18/09/06
Posts: 90
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Reply with quote | #12 |
Ian i was on an angling committee for 6 yrs the club was an equivalent size to MKAA so i know the work that goes on and the thankless task. The only difference is we tried to get the true opinion of what people in the club wanted.
NO-ones had a go at what you do my only gripe is this discussion started months ago about putting pasties into coldecotte and other waters and i raised my views then. I'm entitled to an opinion and mine is that to stock this pasties is not looking into the future but very short term. They may be fast growing but the nature of F2's which i suspect these are is that they are infertile and cannot breed also they have a shorter life span than natural strains of carp. With the nature of fishing and as a club that is designed to suit the masses making every lake the same in my opinion is a bad idea why do you think commercials have silver fish lakes. Its not just matchmen but most pleasure anglers would be happy to see a little roach take there bait.What i believe the waters would have bhenefited most from was new gene pools of existing species , crucian to lodge, bream, tench to caldecott. 5lb plus carp to furzton. Chub to teardrops. I'm not totally anti carp i just believe that these fish hold no future benefit to a water in the long term. MKAA might lease the rights to there waters but so do 90% of clubs in this country. I know Vauxhall lease radwell and sharnbrook pits along with Woburn sands. I also know they chose to stock these venues with at Sharnbrook 3lb plus bream and 5 lb plus carp . They also chose to introduce 20 10lb carp into woburn sands. It may have been fewer fish but the stocking programme was designed to boost the existing fish stocks and create a healthy breeding policy. MKAA isnt a commercial and shouldnt try to be stick with what your good at and let waters mature into greatness rather than flash in the pans.
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PEV
Registered: 28/06/08
Posts: 3
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Reply with quote | #13 |
Ian
Sorry so long answering your statement I 'did not have courage to enter my name'
I am in Wyoming ATM but will reply from here as am a bit miffed by your comment!
I thought you were entitled to post on the forum using any 'name' you chose unless insulting,obscene or in any other way objectionable?
I don't think lack of courage comes into my posting because I did not and am not hiding from anyone, as already stated by another forum poster neither am I having a personal pop at you or anyone involved with MKAA.
As complained by the other poster, do you feel it right to censor or bully by saying anyone who in the slightest way dissents from the party line lacks courage?
My reason for posting was purely to register my great annoyance about (IMO) the ruination of a great little fishery.
It is sad that you seem to take offence so easily and label me a 'coward' because I don't give out my real name to the whole forum. If you want to email me privately I will certainly exchange correspondence with you in a civil way.
And by the way you don't need to tell me that a person who officiates for MKAA should be valued and appreciated but
However you should remember that without me and the rest there would be no MKAA and no forum.
So can I respectfully suggest that you take these points on board before you (or others) attack or censor forum members who are only after all stating their opinions as surely is allowed and expected in a democratic forum.
Best regards
PEV
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craftycarperfurzton
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OlneyAngler
Registered: 02/03/08
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Reply with quote | #15 |
anyone been to wappenham recently?
want to try it for the first time soon.
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