neilatkins
Registered: 25/02/08
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Anyone else forget how good Perch fishing on the ouse is?
I went for a roaving session around whitings the other week, armed with a load of lob worms and my light quivertip rod and had a brilliant day, travelling light I fished as many swims as possible and despite it being 22degrees and sunny all day long I took a load of great Perch right in the middle of the day. Ive put one of the pictures in the gallery - unbelievably I lost one bigger then the one in the photo - bit gutted, but its really got me looking forwards to my winter perch fishing! I'd seriously recommend having a bash for them - can't believe how much the 'pull back' in the warmer water - amazing scrap!
Regards, Neil
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Clifford
Registered: 31/05/09
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highlander
Registered: 07/03/07
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cant wait i will carry on carp fishing till the end of nov then onto the rivers trying to up my pb and the 1st leg of my quest a 3lb perch i want to catch a good chub as well this winter saw loads at whitings the other day when i had a bit of a wander down there but never saw much size wise would you say this is my best chance of a 6lber neil??? |
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neilatkins
Registered: 25/02/08
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Firstly, dont worry about not seeing any big chub at the minute, the big chub can be a bit cagey with the low, clear conditions and arnt gonna waste energy competing with these smaller fish up in the water - they are gonna be tucked away - gorging on cray fish and probably feeding happily in the hours of darkness! They become so much more predictable come winter - and with the small fish activity dying down the bigger chub will come to dominate the obvious 'chubby' swims and become easily catchable. Whitings is an excellent place to target a 6lb chub - I was fortunate to take a very old fish of 6lb2oz on my first 'assault' on the chub a couple of seasons back. Fish with a roving approach and be prepared to walk from the viaduct to the aquaduct and back again fish each swim for a few minutes - ive found that the average chub catch size in winter is 4lb-5lb and then by playing a numbers game you are bound to get to your target 6lb. I always think its better to get a few 4s and 5s under your belt and work up to a 6 - but you cant always control this!!
As for the perch, whitings offers up a good chance for a 3lbder. However when you get to november the big perch switch off for much of the day due to water temperature and prefer to feed as it gets dark, your best chance is at dusk for a small window of opportunity fishing tight to a feature, or under a feature! But if you get one it could be a monster.....and it might not be alone..! Perch pack on weight upto march.
My duel approach would be fish for chub all day and switch to perch for the last 30mins-45mins (you could even drive to stoney starford for the final perch asault). i did this on quite a few occasions and enjoyed measured success.
You can also then switch back to chub once it is fully dark and if you can stick it out fish for an hour into dark for the chance of a bumper bonus - last year I had a 6lbder in total darkness, feeling for bites on the line on my finger in the middle of a freezing hail storm, fun!
If the waters chocolate, cold and racing through forget about both species. If its bitterly cold and the chub are biting just stick with the chub fishing right through into dark.
I would take 2 rods - one a quiver up to a max of 1.5lb tc for chub (you may hook a monster) I use a rod rated 1.5tc - but its quite a soft 1.5lb and one softer rod; a light quiver or float rod for the perch - i use a 17ft rod which is very forgiving on the perch's 'bony' mouth
good luck!
regards, neil
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gizmo89
Registered: 20/03/07
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im off to stony ouse now been for a walk down there already and seen 2 carp and a chub in the shallows about 5lb quite suprisingly didnt see any perch so like neil said im usin a extremely light setup for the chub and a carp pole for possible carp and smaller fish to keep myself busy ill let you all no how i get on |
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highlander
Registered: 07/03/07
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Thanks neil plenty of good advise for me to be getting on with, im relatively new to river fishing ive done a bit last year in stony, but i could only get a bite in 1 swim, i plan on fishing different stretches this year and trying to target chub as well as perch, most of my fishing is in short sessions either early morning or late afternoon. roll on december 1st when my river campaign will begin, thanks again neil |
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gizmo89
Registered: 20/03/07
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jus got back from ouse at stony really well had about 5 chub upto 3lb about 10 bream aloud of rouch and snapped off by a carp |
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neilatkins
Registered: 25/02/08
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Good going giz!
Was that all on a maggot feeder? Bet you were plauged by the crays!
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gizmo89
Registered: 20/03/07
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the lost carp was on a 1/4 oz lead kept feedin n everythink else came off the pole |
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Clifford
Registered: 31/05/09
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Still getting some lovely perch out of the Ouse.
This one was so greedy it managed to cram a 3" plastic shad in. Not sure how it got it all in.
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gizmo89
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went down stony ouse tonite had 3 perch biggest was 3.13 and had a chub all on a lil spinner was feelin really well until i snapped my wire trace so had to pack up and go |
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Clifford
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That's bad luck.
Was it a shop bought one or do you "brew your own"?
I had that happen to me a few times on the shop bought ones (especially those green ones that come on a card), so I make my own now.
I began to worry that one might fail with a fish on and I reaally don't want to leave a lure in a fish.
The expensive pre-made are probably good, but I'm too cheap to find out.
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gizmo89
Registered: 20/03/07
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it was a cheap green 1 that comes on a card coz i couldnt find the good 1's i brought i dont no how to make them myself so wouldnt feel confident makin them for fish saftey but in all fairness it was 1 of theese 1's that caught a 26.7 pike from willen by my uncle a couple of seasons ago |
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Clifford
Registered: 31/05/09
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Just re-read my post - I wasn't criticising your set up or tackle - hope I didn't come across like that.
Sorry if I did.
The green ones are fine for ocassional use, but if you use them regularly they just don't have the staying power.
I found that mine failed after I'd stressed them a little - i.e. catching a decent fish (rarely) or a snag(often).
I was a bit unsure when making traces myself at first - I found that practice was the best way and I've settled on two methods I use now.
I either twist my heavy traces or knot my ultralight traces - I've given up on crimps.
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pikenpirate
Registered: 29/11/06
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If the waters chocolate, cold and racing through forget about both species. If its bitterly cold and the chub are biting just stick with the chub fishing right through into dark.
not doubting you at all in what you say neil as i know youve had some really nice fish but when the waters chocolate i find the chub still feed really well but i tend to opt for boilies and paste in those conditions ive had sessions when the rivers been a few feet up and tanking through and have taken several chub in a session the best being a 7lb 4oz specimen, although it is deffinately more difficult!!! but for the perch i agree completley just dont bother  |
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highlander
Registered: 07/03/07
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My start on the rivers has come forward a bit due to some lovely person fishing on my heavily prebaited swim. bless them
had a few hours out yesterday and had a few perch up to 2lb 10 and really enjoyed it
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neilatkins
Registered: 25/02/08
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1stly - Gizmo....3.13lb! Thats probably the biggest perch from mkaa this year - well done!!!!!!!!!!
2ndly pikenpirate - yes you can definately catch big chub in those conditions, your 7lb4oz proves it, although in that scenario it does help if the temperature is on the up though! I was only advising of the 'ideal' conditions, however in those conditions would sooner break out the barbel kit though!
regrads, Neil
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gizmo89
Registered: 20/03/07
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thanks neil should be back down there next week to try tempting a 4lb perch but this week off to furzton for the weekend |
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pikenpirate
Registered: 29/11/06
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Quote: Originally Posted by neilatkins
1stly - Gizmo....3.13lb! Thats probably the biggest perch from mkaa this year - well done!!!!!!!!!!
2ndly pikenpirate - yes you can definately catch big chub in those conditions, your 7lb4oz proves it, although in that scenario it does help if the temperature is on the up though! I was only advising of the 'ideal' conditions, however in those conditions would sooner break out the barbel kit though!
regrads, Neil
and neil yh i see what you mean advising best conditions it is difficult in flood but deffo agree on getting the barbel gear out great fishing for them in those conditions 
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